how about the greeks

[Thomas]

Why should they?

They are perfect for their place and their food, which is the true nature of regional wine production, and which the New World often does not provide.

Before I am attacked for my blatant generalization, the operative word is "often." I know there are always exceptions.

[Thomas]

Sure thing Scoop. In general, Italian vine regions south of the Tiber River were once Greek viticultural places: Greece colonized southern Italy and Sicily beginning 1,000 BC.

From their training received at Thrace while trading with Phoenicians, through the year of 121 BC, Greeks ruled the Mediterranean wine world for nearly a millennium (in combination with Carthaginians, who stemmed from Phoenicians in the first place).

[Casta]

the topic has certainly turned out to be a good open discussion about greek wines and some representatives of the class.
i normally stick with the reds, and now, reading through some posts i will probably seek some greek whites and let my own perspectives take place.

the problem is that just as it was mentioned, finding merchants that deal with these is not a simple task. i was fortunate to run into a small presentation a few months ago while on a trip to london and was pleasantly surprised.

[Randy Caparoso]

I've actually had some very interesting Greek reds, brought into New York by an importer called ITC Imports Inc. The only reason I don't pursue them for our restaurants is that market interest would obviously be limited (easier for a Greek restaurant than an Euro-Asian one).

Thanks for the history lessons, gentlemen! The wineboard can be so broadening!

[winoweenie]

Foodie, I can`t ever remeber by-passing my taste buds. I`ve put some strange things in there and am still alive to experiment. I`d rather enjoy a mature aged merlot and undermine the nuances of the veal slightly than to drink a white which I don`t enjoy . As your handle indicates, you`re a " Foodie " ...I`m a winie. Winoweenie

[Thomas]

Methinks you have obliterated the buds with all that tannic acid and oak...

As for me, been a winie well before I became a foodie--just thought the two somehow complement each other, but as Bucko will attest, I could be wrong (not often, of course).

What is it about whites that turns you off?

[Casta]

by-passing taste buds?
you're the one trying out the
'Retsin in a bottle ( Box ) of sissy white of your choice, Drop the stuff in, shake violently, let stand for 10 days in the sun...'

where does all this enjoy and winie come from. you're doing away with what some of us live as tradition.

how do you find any types of crab in arizona, anyway?

don't let me down here, you've talking all this smack about 75 and 85 Pesqueras and now i begin to respectfully question you.

[winoweenie]

Casta, I think I`ve deciphered what you asked. If you go back and read my posts I had the Soft-Shell Crab sammich with my daughter in Maryland, but in the spring we get crab flown in daily. Airplanes are a wonderful convienence. As far as the box white, That was a receipe I came across in an old Fanny Farmer " How To " book on making Greek Wine.Guess Resin didn`t appeal to your taste buds. I`m a little hazy on the Pesquira.They came out of my cellar. Winoweenie

[winoweenie]

Randy, Got to your web-page with no trouble. Bucko, there must be trouble on yours. I tried twice with negative results. To every-one else I heartily reccommend spending some time on Randys` site. Well-written and informative. Matter-of-fact Foodie, I learned the reason I love mature reds to the exclusion of sissy whites is Umami! Thanks Randy. You guys go look it up. Winoweenie

[mrdutton]

Been to Bucko's site and been to Randy's site. Very good information on new releases. Great notes, no ratings. Way to go, Bucko!

Read most all of Randy's articles. Lots of good information and interesting articles. Didn't believe one word he wrote - he told us not to believe anything anyway! ........................ [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/smile.gif[/img]

[Randy Caparoso]

I knew you'd start to understand me sooner or later, Dutton!

[Bucko]

Thank you, SIR! (hey, I still got the military mind set, huh?). I have a real hang-up with ratings, just like I did with OERs -- a 40+ y/o professional does not need a report card.......

Bucko

[Drew]

Randy who????? [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Drew

[EPICURUS]

Here's an excellent website on Greek wines:
http://greekproducts.com/greek-wines/

[Casta]

to my great fortune, my girlfriend just came back from Europe with two bottles of red wine from greece. one is a cab and the other was made for a personal reserve - since she's not too literate on the wine side, she had no idea that knowing where it comes from was important. But hey, I am ecstatic!
whiney - I'll let you know if it tastes any different from the retsin mix suggestion.