Icewine???

[Thomas]

Engineer,

You use the magic word "pretension."

Many on this board have either been wine consumers or in the wine business for quite some time. We know that, while there is a conception in America that wine is something special and lofty, the product is rooted in food and culture (with a little religion thrown in for good measure).

With that kind of background, wine is far from anything lofty--only those who believe otherwise would suffer from pretension.

If I had my way...nah, we'll get into all that as you linger on the board...