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- Drew - 01-17-2009

Obama visits Baltimore on his whistle stop today which will cause major inconvenience to anyone, read my wife, who works within a quarter mile of the War Memorial Plaza (she's directly across the street in the Baltimore Police Headquarters building), or anyone visiting within 2 miles of the Baltimore center. A main artery, I83 aka the Jones Falls Expressway, was completely closed down at 4am this morning both ways as well as other routes entering the city and Inner Harbor area (big tourist attraction). The cost estimate from the city to supply accommodations, safety, public works etc. for this brief stop is estimated at 11 million dollars [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img]. Eileen is leaving at 11am for her 2pm work start time! This makes me sick......

Drew


- winoweenie - 01-17-2009

This is payback for youse guys votin' fer the guy. Notice he 'haint even made a hint at visiting Phoenix. WW [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]


- Innkeeper - 01-17-2009

Just watched his arrival in DC. Don't know why. It made me lose my supper.


- Bucko - 01-18-2009

He better stay the hell away from Dallas. [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img] [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb/eek.gif[/img]


- wondersofwine - 01-22-2009

I'm disappointed in the tone of your remarks. I voted for Obama but would not talk that way about Senator McCain if he had won the election. We have a number of crises facing the USA that were not of President Obama's making (the war in Iraq, Hamas in Gaza, the economic meltdown). We should get beyond partisan bickering and divisiveness and hope and pray that the new President will lead our nation to better days.


- winoweenie - 01-22-2009

WOW dear you can be sure every post made here is done with tongue-in-cheek. Even as stauch a republican as I am you can be sure that I also am praying that he can do half as many tasks as he's laid out. I'll be watching with me bated and putting up a prayer for him daily and if he does perform as promised you can bet your bippie I'll vote for him on the 2nd go-round just as I did for our outgoing Gov Janet. WW


- Drew - 01-23-2009

Actually I'm not tongue in cheek. 11 million for a whistle stop that semi cripples a city? I'd say the same about McCain if he did the same. I pray for all of our leaders, all the time but that Saturday visit was Govt. waste on the large scale. I've worked many, many presidential visit details over the years. This one was soooo overblown and pricy. I'll tell ya what, WoW, invite him to your area 1 or two times a year and post the cost and tell me how you feel later.

Drew


- Bucko - 01-24-2009

I've gotten to where I have no use for politicians of any color or flavor. Their #1 goal is to get re-elected, period. Their holier-than-thou attitude is disgusting, given the fact the parties are ridden with scandal after scandal. If anyone believes Obama is any different, they're drinking too much Kool-Aid, to quote Bill. [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]

That said, we still live in one of the best countries in the world. We have a lot to be thankful for.


- brappy - 01-25-2009

Couldn't agree more with you Jane!!!!!

And I live in the city (Baltimore).....

mark

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- Drew - 01-25-2009

WOW wrote: "We should get beyond partisan bickering and divisiveness"

My stance is not partisan and you have no right to suggest such for any of us as you have no idea as to our party affiliation or vote caste in this election. This, simply, is about waste, tis a shame you suggest otherwise.

Drew


- wondersofwine - 01-26-2009

Calm down, Drew. IK and Bucko's remarks sounded more partisan than yours. Anyway, it is okay to differ on politics as long as we are pulling for our country to weather some tough times and not turning on each other. I, for one, resent when people say liberals are unpatriotic (I consider myself more a moderate than a liberal but others might label me as a liberal.) It can be patriotic to dissent in many instances (such as abolition of slavery, an antiwar stance when the war is not in the country's interests.) Bush's administration back in 2003 put the Democrats in a bind where they would look "unpatriotic" if they opposed going into Iraq and so, many voted for the war against their better judgment. Billions of dollars and six years later we are still there without a clear path to withdrawal. Afghanistan (and Pakistan?) should have been the focus all along. But that's history now. I am interested in the current discussion about who decided to go into Iraq and when (was it Bush's decision or was he manipulated by Cheney and Rumsfeld? did he decide in January 2003 or back in summer of 2002?) Through it all, I most DEFINITELY support our soldiers.

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- VouvrayHead - 01-27-2009

WOW hit on my biggest problem with the whole of the last 8 (6 really) years... The suggestion that being against the war and the way Bush ran things made people somehow unpatriotic was the most vitriolic thing imaginable. It came from both the broad republican culture and the administration...
Yuck. I hope (and think) Obama's team will be better than that. There is no democracy where dissent is marginalized.
As someone who dissents frequently against both the donkey and the elephant, I feel this pretty strongly! [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

(re: whistle stop: I abhor all wasteful spending, but I have a hard time caring much about this when Obama is following Bush with another massive "bailout." A plague on both your houses! [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] )

Can any republican here tell me why fiscal conservatism has gone the way of the mastadon? I used to be disgusted with both major parties but sorta root for the republican. Now I am disgusted with both major parties but sorta root for the democrat... Ah well, what's a boy to do?


- Bucko - 01-28-2009

People forget their history. Bush will take the blame for the economic mess, but if you dig deep you'll find it is Clinton's policies coming back to haunt us with the housing crisis. People wanted change. Two years ago the Congress went to the Dems. Do they share no blame for the mess the country is in now? They're too busy trying to cover their own tracks to effectively govern.

I do agree with WOW that the partisan bickering needs to come to an end. We need to work together as a country to get out of this near-depression state we are finding ourselves in. Congress has the lowest approval rating of all times. Let's kick out the old dead wood and get people who are energized to run the country.

Just an FYI, I register Independent. I vote for the candidate, not the party. I won't swallow anyone's party line. I like to think for myself.