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- buttonlady - 06-29-2004

I've heard it said that a glass of wine a day...(or two)has been medically proven to boost your overall health, is this true?


- Thomas - 06-29-2004

buttonlady, almost nothing is medically proven.

There are studies, however, that point to potential health benefits from moderate daily alcohol consumption.


- Innkeeper - 06-29-2004

There is a substance in red wine called resveratrol that is good for the heart. It is found in other foods too, including black tea. Among wines, there is some evidence that Pinot Noir has the highest levels.


- buttonlady - 06-29-2004

foodie, I stand corrected. You are right about that.(not medically proven...) : )
Thank you for your input.


Thanks again innkeeper. I appreciate all the knowledge given here.


- Thomas - 06-29-2004

As IK points out, resveratrol is a substance that has been studied and has shown potential benefit. As to the claims of Pinot Noir--I remain skeptical.

But neither resveratrol nor wine are the only potentially beneficial things. Studies have shown that alcohol from any drink, in moderation, points to health benefits.


- lipwig - 06-29-2004

I have heard several theories, none of which have adequate data to convince me either way (although the thought that it was started by the wine industry to boost sales is my pick, only because I like those conspiracy theories). And really, who cares if it makes you better... it makes you *feel* better - that's the key. [img]http://wines.com/ubb2/wink.gif[/img]

There's my $0.02.

Lipwig


- Thomas - 06-29-2004

lipwig,

You may have heard theories but there are real and actual studies. And few have been inititiated by the wine industry, which hasn't enough money to do and to promote major studies. In fact, major studies come from the American Cancer Society, Harvard Medical School and even the government's National Institute of Health (or whatever its name is).

So, while you might like conspiracy theories, there is no basis to believe in same in this case, except for the Pinot Noir thing--that, I believe, is hype.

[This message has been edited by foodie (edited 06-29-2004).]


- Innkeeper - 06-30-2004

The facts on Pinot Noir were reported (among other places) in the September 29, 2003 edition of "U.S. New & World Report" in an article by Alex Markels. In it Markels quotes Cornell researcher Leroy Creasy who "found the highest resveratrol levels in pinot noir grapes grown in cooler, rainy places like the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York and Oregon's Willamette Valley."


- Thomas - 06-30-2004

Yeah, I know. Did he check it against every other red wine produced in the world?

It's a story but it's not the be-all. But as soon as it was published, which actually was well before the US News & World Report story, wineries began touting their Pinot Noir as the healthiest wine.

I simply do not believe it.


- Bucko - 06-30-2004

Believe it.

In a study of hundreds of wines from around the globe, Cornell researcher Leroy Creasy found the highest resveratrol levels in pinot noir grapes grown in cooler, rainy places like the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York and Oregon's Willamette Valley. (In fact, the highest resveratrol content found in a wine was in Vinifera's Fleur de Pinot Noir, with four times as much as the nearest California pinot noir tested; chart). Long sown in France's cool Burgundy region, pinot noir is considered a finicky grape to grow, in part because it is susceptible to rot, which may be the reason it produces more resveratrol than other grapes--up to 40 times as much resveratrol as grapes such as merlot and cabernet sauvignon.


- Thomas - 07-01-2004

Bucko, I have met and respect Creasy.

I still would like to know the following: which and how many varieties were tested against pinot noir, and what was the real number of wines tested; were the wines tested from various climates and, more importantly, were many pinot noirs from various climates compared.

My suspicion is that climate and disease susceptibility together create conditions for the chemical build up. Sure, Pinot Noir grown in relatively hostile climates will likely show high levels since both the grape and the climate would be difficult. But what about PN grown in Sonoma or in Languedoc?

If there is an answer to my question, and it refutes my doubt, great; then, I will stock up on local P Noir and get even more benefit from all the wine I consume...


- Bucko - 07-01-2004

No details, just the blurb. Go drink some SW with WW....... [img]http://wines.com/ubb2/biggrin.gif[/img]


- Thomas - 07-02-2004

I would but for two problems: WW is on the wagon, and sw don't offer all that resveratrol [img]http://wines.com/ubb2/eek.gif[/img]