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- amw5g - 12-01-2003 06:10 PM

Thinking of trying to build a small (~24 btl) cellar as a pet project. Likely out of a dorm fridge in order to exploit the mechanics and seal. Any experiences, schematics or thoughts with this?<BR>Much obliged!<BR>Andrew


- Thomas - 12-01-2003 07:11 PM

Speak to Hotwine. A few months back he did just that, and somewhere he posted on his experience.


- hotwine - 12-01-2003 08:05 PM

Sorry, Foodster, but your memory has faded somewhat. I use daughter's old dorm fridge as-is for storing whites prior to serving, kind of as an interim stage between the cellar and the table. No modifications have been done to it. For wine storage, I use an HEC 34-btl unit from Sam's in the laundry room, and a EuroCave 260 in the garage, in addition to the 1200-btl cellar.<P>From what I've read, a regular fridge (dorm size or otherwise) can be used for long-term wine storage if the thermostat is replaced or modified to hold temps in the 55-60 degree range (their normal range is something like 35-45 degrees F). But I've not done that, nor do I have schematics for doing it.


- Thomas - 12-01-2003 08:23 PM

I am near-sure that somebody on this board did a cellar recently--thought it was you.<P>This old age stuff is a killer!!!


- quijote - 12-01-2003 08:37 PM

<BR>old age...sure beats the alternative!


- amw5g - 12-01-2003 09:14 PM

Thanks, y'all. I read the archives back to the beginning of 2003 and saw it suggested briefly a few times. But no real substance on the execution. Hopefully some success stories will crop up.<BR>Many thanks,<BR>Andrew


- winoweenie - 12-02-2003 08:01 AM

Just remember the good part about the " Old Stuff ", you only have to do it once!! WW <IMG SRC="http://38.118.142.245/ubb2/wink.gif">


- hotwine - 12-02-2003 09:40 AM

There's a discussion of storage alternatives (including a dorm fridge) in the archives of another site. See http://www.wineloverspage.com/cellarbuy.shtml<BR>It also includes links to more detailed discussions of the dorm fridge option.


- hotwine - 12-02-2003 10:15 AM

Just looked over my copy of Dr. Gold's superb little book, "How and Why to Build a Wine Cellar", which is the best authority on the subject that I've found. Here are some of his comments: <BR>"An orphaned refrigerator that still has good door seals might serve as a poor man's wine vault. Even at its lowest setting, it may be too cold for wine storage, but you can take care of that..... The biggest drawback of refrigerator storage is the meager capacity.... Can a refrigerator that has been retired as not up to the job of cooling milk ever be trusted with the task of guarding Mouton? I've never tried to use a refrigerator, retired or otherwise, for wine, and have yet to communicate with anyone who has. If you've taken this trip please let me know how you set it up and how it went."<P>(Copyright by Richard M. Gold, North Amherst MA.)


- amw5g - 12-02-2003 03:12 PM

Very helpful links, Hotwine. Much obliged<BR>-Andrew


- hotwine - 12-02-2003 03:49 PM

You're very welcome, Andrew.<P>(I assigned myself the monicker "hotwine" after enduring several such storage problems, including a moldy old storm cellar that is now my nicely-chilled main storage.)


- Georgie - 12-02-2003 06:29 PM

and here all along I thought it was because you were such a "hottie!"


- Thomas - 12-02-2003 06:40 PM

I told you hotwine would have the answer. Now, I have to get my depends changed...


- Kcwhippet - 12-02-2003 07:10 PM

Aw, poor Foodie.


- hotwine - 12-03-2003 07:55 AM

(Gasp, choke....) Mine, too.


- amw5g - 12-17-2003 08:09 PM

The Gal just bought me a perfectly-sized storage unit for our wines as a birthday present. So ultimately no need for the dorm fridge conversion. It's all set up and stocked with our latest goodies.<BR>She's the best! <IMG SRC="http://38.118.142.245/ubb2/wink.gif"><P>-Andrew


- winoweenie - 12-18-2003 06:56 AM

MERRY,MERRY!!!!!ww