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- mark esselman - 05-31-2000
I am a relative novice in regard to fine wines. At a recent charity event, some friends and I bid for a number of bottles of wine and, for a very good cause, we paid a considerable sum for this wine. Now, we must divide the "gains."
Most of my colleagues are well versed in this art. I was hoping that I could get some advice relative to ratings, assessments, etc., of the various wines we have purchased so I can "draft" intelligently. Our purchase includes:
PINOT NOIR
Steele Carneros 1997
Etude Carneros 1997
David Bruce Sonoma 1997
Kings Estate Oregon 1997
MERLOT
Swanson 1997
Sinsky Reserve 1995
Duckhorn Howell Mountain 1995
CABERNETS
Chateau Montelena 1996
Chateau Montelena 1995
Beringer Private Reserve 1993
Beringer Private Reserve 1992
Fisher Wedding Vineyard 1995
Conn Creek 1996
Mondavi Private Reserve 1993
Frogs Leap Rutherford 1996
Dalle Valle 1993
Fife Reserve 1997
Groth 1997
Arrowood 1996
Silver Oak 1995
St. Francis 1996
MERITAGE
Conn Creek Anthology 1996
Dominus 1997
Napanook 1997
Rubicon 1995
Rubicon 1994
Kathryn Kennedy Lateral 1997
MISCELLANEOUS REDS
Ferrari Carano Siena 1997
Fife Cabernet Franc 1996
Seghesio Old Vine Zinfandel 1997
Swanson Alexis 1997
AUSTRALIA
Rosemount Balmoral Syrah 1996
Rosemount Traditional 1997
Rosemount Mountain Blue 1996
FRENCH
Chateau Duhart-Milon 1996
Chateau Duhart-Milon 1995
Chateau Cantemerle 1995
La Chappelle De Lafon-Rochet 1995
Chateau Armailhac 1996
ITALIAN
Luce 1995
Banfi Summus 1994
Castello Di Brolio Chianti 1993
San Felice Vigorello 1994
Antinori Tiganello 1996
Bertani Amarone 1967
Bertani Amarone 1968
Bertani Amarone 1975
Bertani Amarone 1976
On the following, I have the "Wine Spectator" list info. but would appreciate any and all comments:
Taylor-Flagate Port 1994
Chateau Ducru-Beaucaillou 1995
Chateau St. Jean Cinq Cepages 1996
Opus One 1996
Robert Mondavi Reserve Cabernet 1996
Bollinger Brut Grand Annee 1990
Chateau Latour Paullac 1996
Ferrari-Carano Chardonnay 1997
Beaulieu Vineyards Reserve Chardonnay 1996
Penfolds Grange 1994
Beringer Private Reserve Chardonnay 1997
Roederer Estate L'Ermitage Anderson Valley 1993
Sterling Cabernet Reserve 1996
St. Francis Old Vine Zinfandel 1997
Columbia Crest Chardonnay Estate 1997
Mount Eden Chardonnay Macgregor Vineyards 1997
Hess Collection Cabernet 1995
Mount Veeder Winery Cabernet 1995
St. Francis Sonoma Reserve Chardonnay 1997
Steele California Chardonnay 1997/375 ml
Beaulieu Vinyards Tapestry Reserve 1996
Gloria Ferrer Chardonnay 1997
Raymond Reserve Cabernet 1997
Chateau Lynch-Bages 1996
Chateau Pichon-Longueville-Baron 1996
Whitehall Lane Cabernet 1997
Bernardus Chardonnay 1997
Chateau Souvrain Chardonnay 1997
Hess Collection Chardonnay 1997
La Granja Nuestra Senora De Remelluri 1996
- Randy Caparoso - 05-31-2000
Wow. You don't ask for much, you know. Some people would pay consultants good money for this kind of advice; but the consultants would have to work pretty hard, digging through data and tasting notes. You can take any one of those wines -- all of which are generally wonderful stuff, by the way -- and have the little elves on the wineboard merrily chipping away with this comment and that. Any ONE of those wines.
Perhaps you should narrow it down to the really-need-to-know items. Friendly advice.
- Drew - 05-31-2000
I didn't see a troll in the bunch!!!
Drew
- Innkeeper - 05-31-2000
Agree with Randy and Drew. Divide them up evenly by type. Would love to have all of them in my cellar, and would like to commend the organizers of the event.
- hotwine - 05-31-2000
Nor did I spot any trolls, duds, or losers by any other name. I counted 78 wines (assume they are all single bottles...). I think you'll find most of the elves on this board have lives, and are not looking for second careers as wine researchers.
Depending on what your group paid for them, you got some real buys. And if the charity is a worthy cause, you could have bought swampwater, and still come out a winner.
Be sure to store them properly to preserve their value.
- mrdutton - 05-31-2000
A glass or two of wine a day has some healthful, beneficial qualities..........
I'd suggest you start right now!!!! [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/smile.gif[/img]
[This message has been edited by mrdutton (edited 06-01-2000).]
- winoweenie - 06-01-2000
I certainly agree with Randy about a consultants fee. Did anyone else at the event get a bottle?I`ll give you a partial based on my own preferences ( and the approx value ) Pinots:Etude, Steele.Merlot : Duckhorn, Swanson...Cabs: Dalle Valle,Ch Mont 95, Chat Monr 96, Beringer Res 92, Silver Oak 95 Meritage Dominus, Rubican 94, Rubican 95, Napanook 97. The rest with the exception of the Penfolds Grange are fairly equal. If these were donated wines from individuals this must be one hell of a cause. Get a Screwpull. Winoweenie
- winoweenie - 06-01-2000
Heck-Fire guys, went back and noticed Mark was from Houston. They really DO do it bigger in Texas!!!! Winoweenie
- Caesar - 06-01-2000
I have personnal exper. with many of these, and I must say, like everyone else, that you are in for a very merry time. I would suggest, however, that you gain some knowledge on proper cellaring, considering most of the Bordeaux and Cabs I see here.Take a look in the appropriate section of this board.
Great buy!!!(He said turning green with envy...)
Caesar.
- mrdutton - 06-02-2000
If you don't have a Screwpull, I have one.........
I am semi-retired and am free to travel..... if my wife allows.
Have Screwpull will travel.
- winoweenie - 06-03-2000
MrD, was it Foodie or Innkeeper that said you had no heart? Your compassionate reply puts the Kiebash on that fairy tale. What a Guy! Winoweenie
- ThePattersons - 06-03-2000
Well, you didn't mention how many friends went in on this....and how many more new friends you will all have once they see this list! We are still drooling over the majority of the wines ourselves. How about dividing by point ratings? It may sound strange but maybe each can choose for each point rating if more than one wine falls under them. I would also suggest that anything over a 95 or 96 ( I haven't checked, but there should be a few) should be shared by all at a dinner together. That way everyone gets to taste the great ones together. Of course, if there are bottles that you all just can't decide on.....we can send you our address and take them off your hands. Too bad we are in CA!
Good Luck!