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- blackrider - 09-21-1999

This is a wine list from a restaurant I have just been hired at.I need detail descriptions in order to sell them.if you have any info i would i would be very pleased to find out what you have to say on some or all of them. thankyou, Blackrider


champagne & Sparkling Wines

Blue Mountain Brut B.C. 44.00
Charles Heidsieck Brut Reserve France 76.00
Bollinger Special Cuveé France 96.00
Taittinger Collection 1982-1988 France 350.00


White Wines
Soave Masi Italy 26.95
Lake Breeze Pinot Blanc B.C. 28.00
Hugel Pinot Blanc France 44.00
Blue Mountain Pinot Gris B.C. 38.00
Mondavi Woodridge Sauvignon Blanc California 25.50
Kim Crawford Sauvignon Blanc New Zealand 46.95
Château de Sancerre France 55.00
Fendant "Vins des Chanoines" 1996 Provins Switzerland 44.50
Wild Goose Semi-Dry Riesling B.C. 24.80
Pierre Sparr Riesling Reserve France 45.00
Lieserer Niederberg Helden Riesling Spätlese Trocken 1994 Müller Burggraef Germany 49.50
Sumac Ridge Private Reserve Gewürztraminer B.C. 31.00
Hugel Gewürztraminer 1995 France 56.50
St. Hallet Poacher’s Blend "unoaked" Chenin Blanc/ Semillon/ Sauvignon Blanc 1996 Australia 39.50
Kettle Valley Chardonnay B.C. 32.50
Blue Mountain Chardonnay B.C. 38.00
Domaine Combret Chardonnay 1994 "Cuvee de Bellac" B.C 58.50
Kendall Jackson "Vinter’s Reserve"Chardonnay California 48.50
Jordan Chardonnay California 84.85
Hardy’s Nottage Hill Chardonnay Australia 25.85
Louis Latour Chardonnay France 39.50
Chablis Drouhin France 55.00
Meursault Charton et Trébuchet France 88.50
Puligny-Montrachet 1996 Drouhin France 134.50
Chablis Grand Cru "Bougros" 1996 Verget France 155.00
Le Montrachet "Marquis de Laguiche" 1989 Drouhin France 465.00


Red Wines
Oak Bay Gamay Noir B.C. 34.50
Beaujolais Villages Drouhin France 42.50
Fleurie Domaine des Rageats 1996 Brac de la Perriére France 58.00
Kettle Valley Pinot Noir B.C. 39.00
Quails Gate Family Reserve Pinot Noir 1994 B.C. 70.50
King Estate Pinot Noir 1994 Oregon 66.50
Dole "Gloire du Rhone" 1995 Provins Switzerland 49.50
Bourgogne Pinot Noir Faiveley France 40.50
Beaune Premier Cru 1993 Drouhin France 98.50
Savigny-les-Beaune "Les Vergelesses" 1980 Leroy France 120.50
Beaune Clos-des-Ursules 1995 Jadot France 125.00
Aloxe-Corton 1993 Rodet France 145.00
Vosne-Romanée Premier Cru "Beaumonts" 1985 Drouhin France 158.00
Barolo Riserva Kiola Italy 51.50
San Ripolo Chianti Classico 1995 Ricasoli Italy 33.50
Amarone Boscaini 1993 Italy 79.00
St. Hallet Gamekeeper’s Reserve Shiraz 1996 Australia 44.50
Côtes du Rhône La Vielle Ferme France 41.50
Gigondas 1994 Domaine Raspail-Ay France 68.50
Châteauneuf-du-Pape Beaucastel France 110.00
Turning Leaf Zinfandel California 28.00
Sumac Ridge Cabernet Franc B.C. 32.00
Hester Creek Merlot B.C. 32.00
Sumac Ridge Merlot 1996 B.C. 42.50
Mondavi Woodridge Merlot California 32.00
Veramonte Merlot Chile 33.00
Geyser Peak Alexander Reserve 1994 California 95.00
Silver Oak Cabernet Sauvignon 1993 California 150.00
Concha y Toro "Casillero del Diablo" Cabernet Sauvignon Chile 28.50
Neethlingshof Cabernet Sauvignon South Africa 38.00
Château Macquin St.George 1996 (St.George-St.Émilion) France 49.50


Cellar Master's List
BORDEAUX
Château Fonroque 1989 (St. Emilion) 124.50
Château Gruaud Larose 1983 (St- Julien) 185.00
Château Montrose 1970 (St Estephe) 550.00
Château Palmer 1983 (Margaux) 595.00
Château Mouton Rothschild 1982 1250.00

BURGUNDY
Clos de la Roche 1988 (Drouhin) 185.00
Musigny Grand Cru 1985 (Drouhin) 285.00

RHONE
Côte Rôtie "La Turque " 1989 (Guigal) 450.00


Dessert Wines

2oz
glass 1/2
bottle
Quady Elysium California $ 6.25 $36.50
St. Hubertus Riesling Ice Wine (200ml) B.C. 18.50 72.00
Müller Trocken Beeren Auslese 1993 Germany 87.50

Bottle
Château d’Yquem 1986 France $1085.00


- Randy Caparoso - 09-21-1999

No offense, but I think you're asking for a lot. The place to start should have been at your restaurant. They might have material all printed out already. You should ask your managers and/or owners, servers, bartenders, everyone and anyone to spend a few minutes with you to answer your questions, and maybe give you a tasting (at least of the wines already opened for by the glass service). The fact that you are requesting this demonstrates your seriousness.

You also need to go the bookstore or library and start reading. There are dozens of books that will provide information -- as with anything, it's the search (or journey) that should prove to be valuable. And are there any wineries within travel distance? Plan a field trip. Once or twice a week, purchase one of the wines (or a similar type) at a local store. Jot down notes, and in a matter of few weeks, your experience will be widened considerably.

And AFTER you've done this, then someone on the wineboard would be able to devote some time to answer questions related to one or two of yor wines. But answers for all 73?

Good luck!


- Thomas - 09-22-1999

I concur with Randy's advice.

The fact that your employer hasn't offered you training is scary to me. Maybe, when you show a desire for it you will receive it, but my suspicion is you will need to get some books on your own, if you are truly interested.


- blackrider - 09-22-1999

thank you both for your replies. As i said I was just hired i haven't worked yet.So far i,ve been given the menu and wine list to view.And yes i will recieve some training as well as tastings of the lower priced wines.I am some what fimiliar with the B.C wines because I do try to make it to tastings when possible.This site is helpful,there is a lot of great info here and I plan on visiting often.There is a lot of wines on the list an I was not expecting a critique on all them but it is a bit overwhelming for me.I would like to start my first shift as educated as possible.Thanks again for any and all help. Blackrider


- Catch 22 - 09-22-1999

As I look over the list, it seems to me that the prices on the wines I am familiar with are quite high compared to what I would normally pay in a restaurant. Would this be due to the difference in the Canadian and US dollars, are the prices just plain high, or is my guesstimating off?


- blackrider - 09-22-1999

yes and no.I'm not sure what the mondavi woodbridge merlot sells for in the U.S.(i assume $10) but after the exchange Approx 1.51, shipping and duty the price is quite reasonable.It is possible to buy the wine in a store for about $15 but of course then your drinking the wine in your home.The more expensive wines sell because of the prestige as well as the assumed quality of the wine.


- Thomas - 09-23-1999

Catch 22, I have traveled to Canada a lot. I can tell you the wine prices for imports are usually way out of line, even after the exchange rate.


- misterjive - 09-28-1999

I, too was struck by the high prices. It is funny that Veramonte appears on this list, given the attention it has received on this bulletin board recently (see "Merlot" and "Wines without a Category" folders). Again, I am thankful that where I buy it (Sarasota, FL), it is $9.99 at the grocery store and $18 at the restaurant at which I work....As for this massive list, I think your best bet is to get a good, comprehensive wine book to serve as an introduction (or Wine for Dummies if you can't find anything with more character and style), and then start trying different varieties. For example, if you taste a couple of Chiantis, a couple of Amarones, and a couple of Soaves in the next few weeks, you will learn personally useful knowledge about Italian wines, knowledge that serves you better than being told by people here what they thought of the Chianti, Amarone, and Soave producers that you mention. Likewise, your list has a concentration of Bordeaux at the upper end of its price scale, and your best bet is not to buy these bottles for three or four hundred dollars apiece, but simply try a couple of bottles of $25 Bordeaux, to get a feel for the grapes involved (as well as for the style of the wine-making region).
One final note---your learning curve is steep at the start of an employment like this, and take full advantage of this fact. Wine reps are invaluable when it comes to teaching restaurant employees about specific selections. Even if you only get to try two or three wines per week at an employee tasting sponsored by your new employer, take full advantage of these opportunities to ask your wine rep about any and all wines under the sun. As many contributors to this board could probably tell you, restaurant owners and wine salespeople almost always want you to learn more about the wines they offer, and and as such, must be your primary resource in this fact-finding endeavor.