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- qypse - 08-08-2003
Hi - I am new to this board tonight. I am trying to help a friend determine the value of 46 bottles of 1981 & 1982 bordeaux wines. Her husband bought them back in the early 80's and they have been stored 1st in a cool indoor location and then in a fancy wine closet. I have found
www.wine-searcher.com &
www.winecommune.com
Some of the bottles are easy to find values. Some I have yet to find a comparison.
Is there a database of realized auction values on the web? Is there any place (including on this board) anyone can point me to for assistance?
Also, if she wants to sell, any opinions on winecommune? Is there a better option?
Thanks!!!
- winoweenie - 08-09-2003
Hi Gypse and welcome to the board. Post the wines you're uncertain of and I'll give you the ones I'm familiar with. WW The 81s' were spotty but the 82s were magnificient
- qypse - 08-09-2003
Hello winoweenie and thanks for your offer to help! I posted the entire list and hopefully it will format in a readable fashion. The ?? either indicate a lack of information or only one comparable found so far.
Pauillac:
01) $50?? '81 Clerc Milon
02) $50?? '81 Duhart Milon Rothschild
03) $100? '82 Duhart Milon Rothschild
04) $75?? '81 Grand-Puy-Lacoste
05) $50?? '81 Haut Bages Liberal
06) $150 '82 Haut Bages Liberal
07) $50?? '82 Haut Batailley
08) $200-400 '81 Latour
09) $700-850 '82 Latour
10) $200-300 '81 Lafite Rothschild
11) $700-850 '82 Lafite Rothschild
12) $50?? '81 Moulin des Carruades
13) $100? '81 Pichon Longueville ** CK to see if it says LaLande
St Julien:
14) $150-275 '82 Beychivelle
15) $100 '81 Ducru Beaucaillou
16) $225-350 '82 Ducru Beaucaillou
17) $50?? '81 LaGrange
18) ?? '82 Leoville (Grand Vin de Leoville) **CK - Las Cases??
19) $75?? '81 Leoville Barton
20) $50?? '81 Leoville Poyferre
St Estephe:
21) $50?? '81 Calon Segur
22) $100-125 '81 Cos d'Estournel
23) $50?? '81 Cos Labory
24) ?? '82 Cos Labory
25) ?? '81 Les Ormes de Pez
26) $100-125 '82 Les Ormes de Pez
Graves:
27) $175-250 '81 Haut Brion
28) $500-750 '82 Haut Brion
29) $75?? '81 Pape Clement
30) $500-600 '82 La Mission Haut Brion (Cru Classe) **CK ? GRAVES?
Pomerol:
31) ?? '81 Dieux Ferrand
32) ?? '82 Dieux Ferrand
33) ?? '82 La Crox deGay
34) ?? '82 La Croux
Margaux:
35) $75-150 '82 Brane Cantenac
36) $250-350 '81 Margaux
37) $650-850 '82 Margaux
38) $75?? '81 Prieure Lichine
39) $75-150 '82 Prieure Lichine
40) $?? '82 Pouget
St Emilion:
41) $175-225 '81 Cheval Blanc (St CfMILON ? Cheval Blanc)
42) ??? '82 Grand Mayne
43) ??? '82????? (St Cfmilion- 1st Grand Cru Classe)
**** Re the CfMILION - She says the 81 & 82 have the same labels. She says the very top says CHATEAU CHEVAL BLANCH then 1981 or 1982, then St Cf(the C looks like a quarter moon & the f is higher than the other letters) milion. Then the next line says 1er Grand Cru Classe. Then appellation saint-emilion 1er Grand Cru Classe Controlee. Then Mis en bouteille au Chateau. Then Ste' CIVILE DU CHEVAL BLANCH, Htiers FOURCAUD-LAUSSAC. Then PROPERTIES A ST-EMILION (GIRONDE) FRANCE.******
Other: CHECK LABEL ON ALL OF THESE
44) $50?? '81 Du Tertre - Arsac **CK - Margaux??
45) $75?? '82 Faurcas Dupre Lestroc - Medoc **ck - Lestroc??
46) ?? '82 La Mission Nouton Rothschild (MA 60 EME Vendage)
47) ?? '82 Palmeo - Makler Besse
48) $50?? ?81 Potensac - Medoc
49) ?? '82 ????? (she wrote Lafite Rothchild - Chaeval Blanc)
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- winoweenie - 08-09-2003
I'll Post in the AM. WW
- winoweenie - 08-10-2003
Hi Gypse. Here's what I know about the wines whic you didn't have a price.
81 Les Ormes.....50
81 Dieux Ferrand... Unclassified property I have no info about even tho they turn out around 80,000 bottles per.
82 Leoville Las Cases....250-295 Killer wine
82 Clos Labroy..5th growth that somehow managed to produce a very mediocre wine in this great vintage
82 Dieux Ferrand. Same as above.
La Croix.Unclassified Pomerol who also managed to screw up a great vintage.
82 La Croix de Gay. Unclassified. Same as above wine.
82 Pouget. A 4th growth that made a decent, not great 82.
82 Grand Mayne. One of the jewels of St. Emilion. Producing killer wines now. Didn't hear about this super property yill 90. 82 is a cinch to be super.
Now for the clincher. If the 82 you had trouble describing is the 82 Cheval Blanc you have IMHO the "Wine of the Vintage". Sould easily sell in the 7to800 range.
Hopefully this is of some help. WW
- qypse - 08-10-2003
Thank you very much WW!! Sue