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- dananne - 05-08-2004
that one needs to trust his or her own palate.
Was in Chicago last year, and when I go, I usually buy a case of things that aren't available here in Atl. Found a bin of '99 Philippe Naddef Gevrey-Chambertin Vieilles Vignes on closeout for under 15. Thought, what could be the harm? Got home and looked it up -- WS had bestowed a whopping 79 on the wine. So, I stuck it in the cellar and more-or-less forgot about it until last night. I opened it on a whim, decanted for 30, poured two glasses, and handed a glass to Anne without saying anything about it.
Bright ruby color. Nose of black cherry and smoke, with good cherry fruit and interesting bacon fat flavors. A minerally element came on late, and the finish was very nice. Anne loved it, and was shocked when I told her it had scored a 79.
Just goes to show you!
- Innkeeper - 05-08-2004
Red Burgundy is almost always a risk for the buyer, regardless of ratings. Glad things worked out despite all.
- winoweenie - 05-08-2004
Can give meeny horror stories on the other side of the spectrum. Have flushed more burgandy im my life that was touted in the 90s' than I care to bemember. WW
- chittychattykathy - 05-10-2004
On the cover of the Book that IK just recommended (Baccchus...) one of the funniest things was about Burgundy. Something along the lines of "If it tastes like old water from a vase of flowers and you paid a lot for it, it's probably Burgundy." (Book is still in car so that's as close as I can remember.)
When it's good it changes how you see wine, when it's bad you wonder what the &*@# your doing.
Hard to know before you open it!
But still, worth the chance!
- Innkeeper - 05-10-2004
McInerney on the difference between Burgundy and Bordeaux: "If it's red, and French, costs too much, and taste like the water that's left in the vase after the flowers have died and rotted, it's probably Burgundy."
- hotwine - 05-10-2004
THAT's why I've had trouble understanding PN! Too remeniscent of female offensive weapon systems.
- chittychattykathy - 05-10-2004
Thanks IK.
- hotwine - 05-10-2004
.... rotted flowers, pots & pans, milk cartons (empty or not) can all serve as domestic weapons, it seems. Never mind.
- Thomas - 05-10-2004
And I always thought a good Burgundy smelled not like the barn but the stuff left behind by those who live in the barn, and that it tasted like what I remember was a pile of the infield as I slid into second base.
- chittychattykathy - 05-10-2004
Hmmm...gross! Does this happen much? [img]http://wines.com/ubb2/smile.gif[/img]
Have never tossed anything at a man-- never felt the need to. Most men seem to understand this about me; I don't react, I act. So, the men that want to talk to/see me ever again understand this and the rest have no place in my life...
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- dananne - 05-10-2004
Hey! Trash Burgundy on your own threads!
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In all seriousness, with Burgundy it can be such a crapshoot. I've had so much overpriced plonk, but those occasional bottles of transcending stuff keep me in the game. That having been said, I buy Oregon and Santa Barbara PN far more often, as there seems to be better consistency. I may not have that "transcending experience," but I'm disappointed far less often.
- wondersofwine - 05-11-2004
Dananne, I agree on the Oregon P.N. Haven't had the chance to try many from Santa Barbara. These wines may or may not be available in Atlanta market but you might look for 2002 G. Jourdan Bourgogne Rouge VV (old vines) or 2002 G. Jourdan Cote de Nuits Village "La Robignette." Both are getting good reviews and are recommended by Carolina Wine Company which does a good job on Burgundy wines. They were offering the Bourgogne Rouge VV at $16.99 a bottle or $13.99 by the case and the "La Robignette" at $24.99 a bottle or $19.99 by the case. I rarely order by the case but did order three bottles of the "La Robignette."
- Kcwhippet - 05-11-2004
Agree with Dan about the disappointment factor. I don't know how many Burgs I've tried over the years, but it must have been hundreds because of all we get into the shop that we taste. Not sure what it is, but I just can't get into them - just like Judy can't with any wine with Grenache. There are several Oregon PN's I like, some quite a bit. However, the PN's put out by the likes of Siduri, Loring, ROAR, Bonaccorsi, Pisoni,Radio-Coteau, etc. just really grab me.
- winoweenie - 05-11-2004
My vote is 'zactly like KCs'. WW
- Kcwhippet - 05-11-2004
Is that a good thing?