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- akaran - 12-03-2005

I will have a vegan friend coming over for dinner and I was wondering what kind of wine would match with vegies and tofu kind of dinner? any suggestion I will appreciate.


- Thomas - 12-03-2005

Dry Rose or sparkling wine. But don't tell the vegan anything about how the wine was produced--dead yeast cells were once living animals and the alcohol in the wine killed them...

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- dananne - 12-03-2005

Those are very good recommendations. I've also found Beaujolais to be a versatile vegetarian food wine, also.

And, speaking as a vegetarian wine drinker, you have to draw the line somewhere . . . I've heard that you inhale and kill literally tens of thousands of little mites each day. I'm not losing any sleep about them, either [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/smile.gif[/img]


- robr - 12-03-2005

A nice sweet Reisling or Gewurtztraminer would also be good.


- akaran - 12-06-2005

thank you all! these are very helpfull.


- j413760 - 12-07-2005

Not sure if the vegan friend has come over already or not, but… Don’t be surprised if they won’t drink the wine. I general wine is not vegan friendly. The wine is often filtered or clarified using different animal products such as:
edible gelatins (made from bones)
isinglass (made from the swim bladders of fish)
casein and potassium caseinate (milk proteins)
animal albumin (egg albumin and dried blood powder)

There are a few good organic vegan friendly wineries out there. Here is a good list of some good choices of wine:

http://vegans.frommars.org/wine/


- Thomas - 12-07-2005

Yep. He's right about that, except that I think dried blood is no longer used much.

There are a host of wine producers across the globe that grow grapes biodynamically and produce wine without much intervention--no clarification and no filtration included. The problem is: keeping up with who they are is a job in itself.

But I know at least a dozen vegans who don't even question winemaking practices--proving, I suppose, that even extremists have their limits [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/wink.gif[/img] PLUS, there is still no way to ferment wine without killing a living organism: yeast. And if the wine is unclarified and unfiltered, then some of those dead yeast cells are likely in the bottle!



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- winoweenie - 12-07-2005

Guess I'll be the 1st in my class to not reach the ripe old age of 29 as I don't give a hoot what clarification process is used as long as its' sterile. Vegans my sweet-patootie. WW


- Thomas - 12-07-2005

WW, I often wonder how vegans feel about all those dust mites that fly up their noses and die right there or in their lungs.

I'm all for humane treatment of living things and for foods being as natural as possible, but some beliefs truly stretch credibility.


- winoweenie - 12-08-2005

Rite on Foodster-bro. WW


- j413760 - 12-08-2005

I somewhat understand the vegans point of view, but it seems far too militant. The general premise behind the vegan philosophy seems to be a good one, but to truly practice veganism (not sure if that is a word) seems to go too far. To be a true vegan a person wouldn’t be able to drink any wine really due to the fact that it has been transported on a truck which uses rubber tires, which is in part processed with burnt bovine bones. As far as the yeast goes, would that be considered a live animal or is it more like a fungus? Vegans just seem to go a bit far for me, but I guess to each their own. Being a vegetarian myself I try to watch what I eat, but it has to be let go at some point. I sure wouldn’t want to miss out on some truly tasty wines due a technicality in the clarification process.


- Thomas - 12-08-2005

numbers, yeast is in fact a single cell fungus.


- Kcwhippet - 12-08-2005

How about that, someone from close to home (real old home). Came from Binghamton originally, and my uncle still lives in Endicott on Country Club Rd. off of Watson Blvd (I guess that's really Endwell). He used to be the general manager of the IBM Country Club (now the Heritage).

Oh, I have no dog in this fight. I'm a devout omnivore.


- Thomas - 12-08-2005

KC, did you just say that you eat dog? [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/wink.gif[/img]

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- akaran - 12-08-2005

well, all you guys who are concerned that they might not drink wine, I had wine with them before so I know they drink wine. I will have them over coming monday, and I am sure they will show up with a bottle of wine themselves....
I will let you know what they bring also... I will probably go with a beaujolais...
P.S. KC, I am a grad. student here in London, I am originally from Istanbul...

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- Kcwhippet - 12-08-2005

Foodie, Had that - in Taiwan.


- j413760 - 12-08-2005

KC, things have really gone down hill here since IBM left town. Hopefully I can get out of here before the whole place dries up. How long ago did you move from here. Your uncle lives right near my favorite wine/liquor store (Park Manor). You by any chance have whippets? Sorry don't mean to hijack your topic akaran. I would be very interested in knowing what they drink. I just picked up some organic wine a few weeks ago, I have yet to pop it open. Not sure if it’s vegan friendly. It’s made by Four Chimneys (http://www.fourchimneysorganicwines.com/).

J


- Kcwhippet - 12-09-2005

Numbers,

I was born there in Lourdes on Riverside, and my mom and I lived there till my dad came home from WWII. So, I've been gone almosr 60 years. Been back to visit the relatives still there every so often, like the last two times we saw Foodie in the FL. Very depressing area for the most part. Got rels there, up off Front near BCCC and Vestal.


- Thomas - 12-09-2005

Numbers,

My information has it that the so-called organic wine you have might not be the best representation of the genre.

I know that many years ago I discovered that for myself not just by tasting but by watching a few of the wines referment on the shelf of a retail wine shop one afternoon as the owner went around picking up the corks that popped off and shot across the store. Happened in Albany while I was on the road selling wine to that store.

The trouble with the word "organic" in America is that it is quite often miss-applied, if not misunderstood, and especially with wine.


- j413760 - 12-09-2005

Foodie,
Are you saying that the wine that is labeled organic, may in fact not be organic? It's no big deal to me as I bought it for the taste. It might make me not buy the wine again if it's falsely claiming to be organic. Just curious. BTW you can call me J or Jeremiah the numbers are just my Zipcode [img]http://www.wines.com/ubb2/smile.gif[/img].

-J